Diesel Ducks Support – George Buehler Yacht Design https://georgebuehler.com Custom and Production Yacht Design Thu, 05 Aug 2021 02:36:11 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5 https://georgebuehler.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/GB-icon.jpg Diesel Ducks Support – George Buehler Yacht Design https://georgebuehler.com 32 32 45′ Plus Diesel Duck 6 https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/45-plus-diesel-duck/45-plus-diesel-duck-6/ Sat, 17 Jul 2021 02:00:27 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3926 ]]> New photos 4/20/09

The 45-Plus Diesel Duck, Page 6
 

 

 

This boat has some engine room. These photos were taken soon after the launch. I’m assuming everything will be labeled soon because everything else about the boat is first class and seamanlike, and the engineroom should be the same. To many yachts have machinery areas with no labeling. It’s essential for anybody aboard to be able to come into the machinery area and see what valve does what, what direction things flow (arrows on pipes), and what switch does what. All US navy ships have this but oddly, few yachts do.

Ross’s 45-plus was built by Townsend Bay Marine, a high end yacht building and repair joint in Pt. Townsend, Washington. You can check them out at townsendbay.com/ and if you’re ever in the area, stop in and see their projects. They build yachts up to 150 feet in all materials and regularly take on serious repairs and modifications.


Here’s the original drawing of the 45-plus. I love Ross’s boat but still like the basic simplicity of this version.

 

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45′ Plus Diesel Duck 5 https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/45-plus-diesel-duck/45-plus-diesel-duck-5/ Sat, 17 Jul 2021 01:17:23 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3908 ]]> New photos 4/19/09

The 45-Plus Diesel Duck, built by Townsend Bay Marine, launched 2007.
 
The helm has all the instruments you could imagine.


 

 

Commercial style hydraulic self storing anchor windlass. Note the “level winder Tony.” A “Tony” is a Ballard term used when you don’t know what something is called. What you do is describe what it does, then add the word Tony. For instance, a hand saw would be a “cut the wood TONY.” A shovel would be a “dig a hole TONY.” As various brain cells shut down I find I use the term alot…..

The “plus” feature of many of the newer DUCKS sure makes boarding simple, and creates a”swim step” that’s very hard to damage. You can back into things without much fear!

 

There’s a bench at the stern and the cockpit is covered by a permanent hard top and has full canvas side curtains.

 

The galley is in the main cabin and the washer/dryer, trash compactor, microwave, and much storage, is in the passageway between the fwd. and aft cabins.

 

Bodie checks out the entrance to the main cabin then heads down towards the bow.

 

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45′ Plus Diesel Duck 4 https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/45-plus-diesel-duck/45-plus-diesel-duck-4/ Sat, 17 Jul 2021 00:46:56 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3896 ]]> Page 4 of Building the 45-plus DUCK
 
Forward view from inside the wheelhouse.

 

View aft from the pilot house. The cockpit appears to be a very secure place from this view.

 
Main cabin looking aft at access to stern cabin and wheelhouse.


 
Port lite ring foundation appears to be epoxied in. Note the “furrin'” strips on fame face for attaching the hull liner.


 
Engine room is going together. There’s lots of elbow and head room.

 


She floats right side up!

 

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45′ Plus Diesel Duck 3 https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/45-plus-diesel-duck/45-plus-diesel-duck-3/ Sat, 17 Jul 2021 00:31:47 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3883 ]]>
By the end of July, 06, the ship is well along. This extended hardtop going over the cockpit is a good touch although you need to duck down to enter from the deck. That’s no hardship and until the 1960’s, was common. Designers used to think the good looks of the ship was important. That seems to have been lost in many cases today.

 

The “plus” transom has large windows over the headboard of the owner’s bed.

 

Hydraulic steering ram deck mounted for easy access.

 

Hydraulic lines are steel, and join rubber hose as they approach the steering unit. This is about fool proof. Look at the abuse the hoses on a typical backhoe get without problems. Steering a boat is chump change compared to that!

 

She has a variable pitch prop and it appears one of them new “articulated” rudder things. These were the owner’s ideas, not mine.

 

Good sized fwd. windows!

 

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45′ Plus Diesel Duck 2 https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/45-plus-diesel-duck/45-plus-diesel-duck-2/ Sat, 17 Jul 2021 00:09:47 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3870 ]]> Les Schnick is a fine designer and draftsman (imagine, he actually does HAND DRAFTING still!! But of course his German name says it all…) who works with Townsend Bay Marine, among others. Les worked over the 45-PLUS and the owner, as well as I, liked his version. Here it is. This again shows that when you can keep egos out of things, a combination of ideas will frequently make a better product! My only objection to this version is the sailplan; the main is way to small. The reason is Les put a standing backstay on it which limits the boom length. Actually, she doesn’t need the standing backstay at all. The side stays can be a bit aft and I’d have a running back on each side too. I’d remove the backstay, raise the mast, and move it forward maybe 12″. If you visit Holland you’ll see HUGE gaff rigged boats with tabernacle masts, all using running backs, many sailed regularly by one or two guys.


 

Townsend Bay in Pt. Townsend, WA, did a fine job of building her. The two welders, Paul and Stan, are excellent craftsmen and the tremendous heavy duty machinery available to them makes the job smoother yet. This new digital camera I’m using doesn’t take the best pictures (could it be me?) but here, after the below info, are some construction shots up to 8/23/05.

HYDROSTATIC CALCULATIONS
 
DIMENSIONS
 
LOA: …… 47.33 ft
LWL: ….. 46.12 ft
Bmax: …… 14.23 ft
BWL: ……. 13.80 ft
Draft at DWL: 5.30 ft
Volume : …. 1073.04 ft3
Displ. at DWL: .. 68674.27 lb
 
COEFFICIENTS .
Prismatic: … 0.657
Block: …….. 0.318
Midships: … 0.484
Waterplane: 0.789
 
RATIOS
L/B Ratio 3.34
D/L ratio 312
Lbs./In. 2679
 
CENTROIDS
LCB 24.51 ft (50.7% aft)
LCF 25.60 ft (53.1% aft)
VCB -1.34 ft
XWS 25.73 ft (53.4% aft)
ZWS -2.31 ft  

 

I’ve heard arguments from upside downers and right side uppers about which way is better. I dunno and suspect it doesn’t matter. Top builders can be found who work either way….

 

 

The fwd. underwater plate is 3/8″ thick. Look how neatly Paul and Stan rolled it into position.

 

Heavy duty keel cooler.

You’ll see at the front of the photo that the plate is continuously welded to the frame there. Normally that isn’t done but in this case there’s a watertight bulkhead, so the plate is welded to one side only, and caulked on the other side. Careful welding and good grinding avoids the “starved horse” look so common on boats where all the plate is welded to the frames. Read the Random Thoughts about that stuff at http://georgebuehler.com if you’re interested in more on that. And other stuff too of course!

 

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Building the 47-Plus in Argentina https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/47-plus-diesel-duck/building-the-47-plus-in-argentina/ Mon, 12 Jul 2021 03:34:12 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3789 ]]> New photos added 7/5/2017

She has a heavy bow stem! Look at the longs! It appears he’s being built “ship fashion” using “L” section longitutionals. And it looks like they’re using square stock to force the “L” stuff to bend “fair.” It ALSO looks like the longs are not notched into the frames but welded each side? I never saw that before. It will be interesting to see new pics as they come.



These photos don’t show the long detail. Hopefully the next ones will. Notice she isn’t being built on a keel. One of the things I enjoy about my bidness is seeing all the different ways boats are built in different places. I’ve not seen a steel boat built in this manner before.

Here she is welded up and being painted.



Almost ready to launch. I really like the wheelhouse window layout!

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Ducks Gallery 2 https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/ducks-gallery/ducks-gallery-2/ Thu, 08 Jul 2021 06:33:32 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3457 ]]> New photo 9/4/08

A not in order selection of photos….
The new 462 Seahorse DUCK Sedan…. Sailing!

Randall’s 462 Launched 10/8/06. The Fly Bridge is a good touch.
 


Here’s the original Duck, a 38 footer built by Millerick Bros. in Cotati, CA back in 1989. I think. I forget. This shot is from 2004 and shows her now as a happy family cruiser, still in the SF area. She’s currently owned by Mark Dallman, who sent me the photo below!






Here’s Seaductress all “pimped” out 5/06, waiting to be relaunched. She now has a high gloss paint job, a high tech looking mast to hold everything except the sails which were discarded (!), and various system improvements. The work was done by Townsend Bay Marine, Pt. Townsend, WA, who are builders of the first 45-plus.



And here’s how she looked when she single-handed from China to the US.

 

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Building a 48′ Wood Duck 11 https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/48-diesel-duck/building-a-48-wood-duck-11/ Thu, 08 Jul 2021 02:13:38 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3355 ]]> 8/9/05

Here’s the aft cabin showing the big bed. Personally, I’d have put it in the middle but I suspect their interior layout needed it here. Besides, setting things up the way YOU like it is the reason for building a new boat!
The head and shower going in.

The galley. Stove location is always argued about. Some people think it should be facing the centerline, mounted on gimbals. Other people think it should be like this, so things can’t fall out of the oven when the door is opened.

If I was on a racing sailboat that usually is at heel I’d gimbal the stove. Otherwise, I like this layout.

This shows the galley area as well as the access door to the engine room and the stairs leading to the pilot house. It looks like there’s a pantry opposite the stairs.

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44′ Duck photos https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/seahorse-ducks/44-seahorse-diesel-duck/44-duck-photos/ Thu, 08 Jul 2021 01:27:52 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=3341 ]]>
The galley in a Seahorse 44. That ugly red carpet is covering a beautiful teak & holly sole…. This is boat has a passageway below the house to the aft cabin.
Don’s 44 in Hong Kong just before heading off to Japan.
Access to aft cabin is via pilot house rather than passageway. Don’s version has side doors and no cockpit.
 
 
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44′ Diesel Duck Interior Views
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Seahorse Ducks https://georgebuehler.com/diesel-ducks-home/seahorse-ducks/ Thu, 24 Jun 2021 01:39:18 +0000 http://staging.georgebuehler.com/?page_id=2876 ]]> 11/4//2014 New rig drawings Seahorse 492 drawings
10/28/2014 New 60′ Seahorse DUCK based research/survey vessel

The Seahorse Built Diesel Ducks

Currently featuring The 382, 462, the 462 Sedan and new in 2014, the 492 and 60 Survey vessel.
 

The 462
 Seahorse DUCK is a spectacular ship

 
You’ll read in other places on this site how the idea of the DIESEL DUCK boats came about. Briefly, I liked the original so much that I made a few different sizes of them. Some people wanted different sizes again, one thing led to the next, and now there’s this DUCK family.

One of the best things that has happened to them is the involvement of Bill Kimley owner of Seahorse Yachts in China. I don’t remember if a client of mine first approached him or if he approached me with the client, but regardless, he took the 44 made some small changes, and three were sold right off. These three are still some of my favorites, and all three of them made long voyages. He then built a highly modified 48, and a 55 that followed the plans pretty well. You’ll see a section this site devoted to her. Both the 55 and the first 44 now live in the Puget Sound area.

New 60′ Seahorse DUCK based research/survey vessel, the first Seahorse Duck. A modified 44, she and David Katz, her owner, single handed a two year trip from Hong Kong, through the Islands, to San Francisco, Alaska, and then Seattle. She now lives near Pt. Townsend, Washington.
 

One of my favorite ideas Seahorse came up with was the cockpit. I’d never THOUGHT of a cockpit on a powerboat! This reinforces the concept of the Diesel Duck being a Sail Assisted TROLLER Yacht. This shot is SEADUCTRESS, shown above, the first Seahorse Duck and still one of my favorites.

 



“Gauguin’ (foreground) was the second Seahorse Duck. She cruised to Japan
 
Here’s Gorgons DUCK moored next to the 48 Bill built. This boat has traveled extensively and is in Europe at this writing.

The original three 44 DUCKS left on their own bottom. One went back to his home in Japan. David Katz, a long time single hander, took two years to go through the south Pacific and back to the west coast of the US. And a third is leisurely headed around the world. So far he’ “did” the Red Sea, and the winter of 05 found them in the Filipinos. Here’s a letter Gorgon mailed about the trip to date:

The Red Sea and Suez Canal passage is just a faint blur in my memory. The reason for this is either the arteriosclerotic brain or the fact that the “pot is full” after three months of cruising along the Turkish coast.

Our plan was to do The Red Sea as fast as possible and get to the Mediterranean in time to enjoy a full cruising season. Most sailboats spend one to two months on this trip, ducking in and out of protected anchorages along the western shore. We left Djibouti on April 21, and headed right for the middle; at times close to the shipping lanes. The first four days were great: wind over the stern, averaging 7 kts and 170 miles / day. Then we had to pay our dues: unrelenting strong winds from the NNW, right on the nose, blowing at Beaufort 7 to 9. This lasted for five days and the seas were building to impressive size. Once you are in the middle of the Red Sea, there is no hiding. I had to throttle way down and at times we moved only at a speed of one to two knots. At this speed and these seas I had no choice, but to face the seas head on. The boat would have been rolled badly at any other angle. Pounding into the sea, our strong Nomad sounded like a thin tin can! Once, the captain of a large tanker that was passing close to our boat, called, asking if he could be of any help. He kept asking whether he could do anything for us — this got us really worried! On the 9th day things calmed down and we tied up to a mooring buoy in front of the “Suez Yacht Club” in the evening of April 29.

The Suez Canal passage is a two day affair and one needs to engage an “agent”, who will make the necessary arrangement. The boat needs to be ad measured and inspected and the hands of everybody involved need to be lubricated with US Dollars. There is somebody constantly rowing about in the anchorage asking for Cigarettes (Marlboro) and money — usually making a “hard landing” with the old wooden skiff if one does not oblige. Nomad suffered a few scars here. I have seen some of these guys jumping up and down, repeatedly banging into a nice yacht, and screaming ” Allah will punish you!”, if the owner did not oblige to their requests. By the way, these people all work for the “agent”.

The first stop is in Ismailia. After Suez this is a pleasant surprise. There is a nice marina with clean facilities and friendly staff. One can stay for just one night or longer, arrangements for the pilot are made when one is ready to leave. We left Ismailia on May 8, heading for Port Said. Our pilot was a quiet, friendly chap. Shortly before the pilot boat took him off in Port Said he requested his “gift”. I gave him cigarettes and more Dollars than the “usual” rate, but he was suddenly not very happy — he also wanted a T-shirt. Since I did not have one for his size — he was a big fellow — He left rather brusquely. We did not stop in Port Said — a derelict place, I was told — and sailed straight to Cyprus, which we reached on May 10.

The Canal itself is interesting, but also monotonous. Desert on the left side and desert on the right side. Being passed — almost within reach — by a VERY large container ship is exciting, however.

We are now back in Finike, Turkey. Since our departure from Phuket, Thailand we have covered about 7000 miles. Considering our fuel consumption, the boat traveled 4.2 miles / Gal. ( 1.1 miles / Liter ) or used 0.24 Gal. / mile ( 0.9 Liters / mile ). Average speed: 6.3 kts @ RPM 1300 to ( mostly )1400+.

Best wishes,

Gorgon



The high gloss finish on Gorgons DUCK reflects a river seen. Notice how “fair” the hull is!
 

Between Bill’s ideas and some of his customer’s ideas a new kind of DUCK came about. Ideas I never even thought of started appearing. That’s why I say NO design appears out of a vacuum. ALL successful designs are a blend of ideas, many times going back into previous centuries. Any designer who claims otherwise is just a bit full of themselves!

For instance, the passageway connecting the front and the back half of the boat. I automatically separated the hull into two parts, with a separate engine room in the middle, with the fuel tanks on each side of the engine. This was a waste of space. By putting a passageway down one side of the engine it still leaves a very large engine room, especially by sailboat standards. That feature allows you to avoid a separate stairway from the house down to the aft cabin. And best of all, it gives a good place for the galley, which frees up the entire front half of the boat for living space. The tanks go under the forward cabin sole except in some of the wooden hulls. The wood framework takes a lot of space and we often still need some tankage in the engine room.

Seahorse and I worked up the 462. This boat had the radical (for me; it’s common in the industry) of a “step” transom. The transom is actually several feet forward of where it would normally be. It drops vertical to a line parallel to the chine, then goes aft to the chine, making a platform and a “swim step” that is actually part of the hull. If the boat had a normal stern she’d be close to 49 foot long. But as is, she is around 46 on deck but close to 48 over all. To make the stern look a bit less blocky in profile, “wings” were added. These are simply extensions of the side plate. They serve as side rails perhaps, but nothing else other than smoothing the profile appearance. The photo below shows how the stern works.





Bill’s interior on the second 462 shows the galley in the Passage along side the engine room.
As the photos show, this is a very comfortable cruising interior.
 
 


The 462 Hull Lines show the “step” at the chine. The dashed lines running from the chine to the deck are the “wings”.
 

By now, Bill was so busy he had to stop doing the custom building that he started off the his involvement in the DUCKS with. He’s very “hands on” and personally worked out all of the interior ideas on his company’s boats. There simply wasn’t the time to do that with a changing variety and he instead concentrated on making the 462 as comfortable and well laid out as possible. The results are obvious. Just watch the video link of the comments from folks at the ’07 Trawlerfest where a 462 was voted “Best Of Show” by the attendees. Here it is! The 462 Diesel Duck Video: Passagemaker Magazine’s Video of the 2007 “People’s Choice” award! Here’s some interior shots from the 462.

The Passageway Galley is spacious and even though it is out of the way it is still part of the living area.
Spacious wheelhouse with excellent visibility.
Here’s the standard “dash” of the 462. 


Setting up the Outriggers
 





Please “click” NEXT to see 462 DUCK Construction Photos.

462 DUCK Sedan is the same hull as the 462.

Seahorse 382 photos and description.

2014 the new Seahorse 492

2014 New 60′ DUCK based Research/Survey Vessel

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